Episode Chapters

  • Rejoicing when life hurts

    Starting at 0 min 
    0 sec

    The question behind the conversation and an introduction to 1 Peter.

  • Salvation and living hope

    Starting at 3 min 
    43 sec

    God’s work for us and the inheritance Peter describes.

  • Protected, yet facing trials

    Starting at 10 min 
    33 sec

    Personal stories and the distinction between protection for salvation and freedom from hardship.

  • What trials can produce

    Starting at 19 min 
    11 sec

    Tested faith, rejoicing through tears, and steadfastness.

  • Joy and faith without sight

    Starting at 26 min 
    26 sec

    Loving Jesus without seeing Him and the Holy Spirit’s work.

  • Salvation and the angels

    Starting at 38 min 
    38 sec

    Peter’s description of the prophets and the angels’ interest in salvation.

  • Four takeaways

    Starting at 41 min 
    54 sec

    Salvation, protection through faith, growth through trials, and inexpressible joy.

  • Episode Notes

    How can you rejoice when life hurts? Ken and Julie explore 1 Peter 1:1–12, where joy and grief appear together. Along the way, they discuss living hope, God’s protection for salvation, and how trials develop steadfast faith. With honest admissions and personal stories, they reflect on learning to love Jesus without seeing Him—and finding joy that can coexist with tears.

    Scripture referenced

    • 1 Peter 1:1–12
    • James 1:2–4
    • Revelation 14:12
    • John 16:7–11

    Credits

    Ruben Gomez · Joel Baker · Fiona Lin · Kenneth Mayr · Ken Norton · Julie Norton